I recently read an article called Why Some Evangelicals Won't Vote for Romney I read comments posted about the article and it led me to post a response on the site this is what I wrote:
Bill Keller is 100% correct!To PreacherAz:we as born again Christians have MUCH to be worried about. not only will mormanism be legitimized but by these evangelical leaders backing a morman we are confirming the worlds assumption and the Mormans attempt to say that they are just another form of Christianity. If this becomes the common belief I believe there will be a mass move to mormanism and it will no longer be considered a cult but become a legitimate religion. Normally, it would not matter if a religion was no longer considered a cult but the morman cult has already been such a powerful force in its cult state so imagine how much faster it would grow in the world if evangelical leaders send out the message that it is a legitimate religion rather than the false doctrine meant to deceive and blind millions that it actually is. If you want to follow the thought that we should vote for whoever could beat hillary you should vote for gulianni (I do not endorse him, I think he would be just as terrible as a democrat)I agree with the fact that every Christian that votes for romney is responsible for every person that is deceived by Mormanism due to its legitimization. You may have the right to vote for romney and you may know that mormanism is a cult but there are many who do not
1 Corinthians 8: 9- 13:9:
Be careful, however, that the exercise of your freedom does not become a stumbling block to the weak. 10For if anyone with a weak conscience sees you who have this knowledge eating in an idol's temple, won't he be emboldened to eat what has been sacrificed to idols? 11So this weak brother, for whom Christ died, is destroyed by your knowledge. 12When you sin against your brothers in this way and wound their weak conscience, you sin against Christ. 13Therefore, if what I eat causes my brother to fall into sin, I will never eat meat again, so that I will not cause him to fall.>
Woe be the one that causes souls to burn in hell all because they like the politics of a high priest in a Cult and let it outweigh the truth of the Gospel
Anthony Mendoza
If you have an opinion on this please feel free to comment and I will respond back to you on it also read the comments others posted on the topic to see some of the tings I referenced
God bless,
Anthony
9 comments:
I am curious Anthony if you have any Mormon friends, or are they just statistics to reach out to?
I live in the very heart of that “cult state” you mention. All of my neighbors (for several blocks) are Mormon. I as a Christian must say that all your “cult this”, “cult that” rhetoric is one of my worst enemies. Don’t you know that Mormonism is persecution sensitive? They thrive on persecution, and you are a persecutor. Just as the Bible promises persecution, and the Pharisees persecuted Jesus, so you persecute them. It validates them.
Here’s a piece of advice for you… go make a Mormon friend… a real friend, and not just something you denounce as hell bound. Love them in spite of their beliefs, and with no agenda. Go plant, do some watering, and let God shine.
You mention in the articles comments, Mormonism is the only cult that is attempting to disguise itself as another religion.
I don’t know a single Mormon who actually believes this.
I’d like to recommend a book for you: A Different Jesus: the Christ of the Latter-Day Saints, by Robert Millet. The book has a forward by Richard Mouw, and is published by Eerdmans.
anthony,
i know you think you understand it all quite clearly with 18-19 years of life under your belt, but your outright contempt for a group of people that simply believe differently from you will never bring you any joy in life. you should rethink your whole mental disposition because it's too early in your life to start down this path. i know this might be hard for you to grasp right now, but mormons are not bad people.
as for your politics. you should consider that as this world becomes increasingly secular, evangelicals will eventual become the topic of mockery among secularist, not unlike how you now treat mormons. by all means, vote for who you like, but it'd be advisable that you do it based on shared values rather than religion.
yes, i am mormon, and while i'm hurt by the comments by yourself and the evangelical community --that question my mental capabilities--, and with whom i once proudly united with on the christian right, harbor no hard feelings towards you. mitt romney's candidacy has induced a lot of hatred from a lot of people i once considered my allies and while i'm not happy with it, at least i know where i stand now. i live in the greatest and most free country in the world that will allow a women to succeed, and a black man to succeed, but will not knowingly allow a mormon to succeed.
anthony, I have to ask. if one doesn't like jews for being jewish, what is he? anti-semite. if one doesn't like a black man for being black, what is he? racist. if one doesn't like a woman for being a woman, what is he? sexist. if one doesn't like a mormon for being a mormon, what is he? would you personally have discounted the others when it used to be popular to disrespect them? so why is it okay to say publicly what you do of mitt romney and a religious faith when you know neither personally? not even your religious zeal to spread the gospel as you understand it can justify that.
god bless.
chad allen
Thank you all for your comments,
I appologize if I came across as hating Mormons that was not my intention at all.
I am afraid that I did not protray my point that well. Here is a link to a set of websites that discuss what I was talking about: http://www.sliceoflaodicea.com/?p=25
thanks,
Anthony
anthony, i don't need a link to a website to get a background on what makes you think the way you do. the simple matter is that you are intolerant and would rather enjoy the comfort of your preconceived notions of absolute righteouness in everything you believe. yes, while it is a fact that mormons believe that they follow the true gospel, so it is with yourself, and the jews, and just about every other denomination. they difference is that for some reason, the circles you travel in somehow deem it okay to insult and demean us as brainwashed and followers of a cult. have you really ever stopped to think of what a cult is, and then the word's application to what modern society recognizes as a cult, ie followers of jim jones (evangelical), suicidal comet group a few years back, charles manson, etc. do you really feel that mormons fit into that category of people? really? do you think you are calling a spade a spade when you call me a cult member? who's your pastor? t.d. jakes? joel osteen? whoever it is, does that make you a follower of cult? of course it doesn't.
you find your vindication of thought only by what you have heard and been told your whole life concerning the mormons and their "anti-christian" beliefs. so now you are just stuck in a rut of thought, known in psychology as a "reign of error". the narrative of mormonism as you have heard it began nearly two centuries ago during america's religious awakening and competition for church attendance was in full swing. truthfulness of the religion aside, verbal hyperboles were tossed about and, unfortunately, those irrational descriptions of mormons have persisted to this day. hence, i'd be willing to bet everything i have, that you, your pastor, and others who describe mormons as direct/indirect tools of the anti-christ, have never even read the book of mormon with the intent to even understand what exactly it is that makes mormons different from you. you'd rather, however, continue the "reign".
so i don't want to look at your website. i have a lifetime of hearing first-hand why i'm unacceptable as a christian. and i'm not the one opposed to you succeeding. i don't have qualms about voting for an american, that happens to be an evangelical. so the burden to understand is on your shoulders.
Sorry but I cannot stand idly by and read your condescending attack towards my Christian brother when what he is trying to do is stand up for the truth. Christianity is divisive, any true Christian will not deny that, Jesus Christ came to save the world from the judgment of God that sinners deserve, salvation which is a free gift for everyone if they repent of their sins and trust in Jesus Christ. That’s not to say that everyone will do that, and the Savior warned us “"Watch out for false prophets. They come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ferocious wolves.” So when your religion tells us falsehoods about the Jesus Christ of the Bible, why are we expected to ignore this? We are not trying to discriminate against you, we are standing up for the truth revealed in scripture. The Mormon church spends a great deal of time and money on public relations with the aim of portraying a loving, family oriented, non-condemning Christian denomination. But we Christians react to this and cite the great differences in doctrine between Mormons and Christians and continue to pronounce the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as a non-Christian cult. But what about your church sir? Does the Mormon church condemn other religious systems? The answer is definitely, "Yes." look at what Mormon writers have said:
Joseph Smith said . . .
(Regarding Joseph Smith's alleged first vision where celestial personages appeared to him.) . . .) "My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right — and which I should join. I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong, and the personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in His sight: that those professors were all corrupt . . ." (Joseph Smith, "History of the Church, Vol. 1, page 5-6.)
"What is it that inspires professors of Christianity generally with a hope of salvation? It is that smooth, sophisticated influence of the devil, by which he deceives the whole world." ("Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith," Compiled by Joseph Fielding Smith, page 270.)
(In questions directed to Joseph Smith, the founder of Mormonism. . .)
First -- "Do you believe the Bible?"
If we do, we are the only people under heaven that does, for there are none of the religious sects of the day that do."
Third — "Will everybody be damned, but Mormons?"
Yes, and a great portion of them, unless they repent, and work righteousness." (Teachings, page 119.)
Brigham Young said. . .
"But He did send His angel to this same obscure person, Joseph Smith jun., who afterwards became a Prophet, Seer, and Revelator, and informed him that he should not join any of the religious sects of the day, for they were all wrong." (Brigham Young, "Journal of Discourses," Vol. 2, page 171. - 1855)
John Taylor said . . .
"We talk about Christianity, but it is a perfect pack of nonsense....Myself and hundreds of the Elders around me have seen its pomp, parade, and glory; and what is it? It is a sounding brass and a tinkling symbol; it is as corrupt as hell; and the Devil could not invent a better engine to spread his work than the Christianity of the nineteenth century."( Journal of Discourses, Vol. 6, page 167 - 1858)
"Where shall we look for the true order or authority of God? It cannot be found in any nation of Christendom." (J.D.", Vol. 10, page 127. - 1863)
James Talmage said . . .
"A self-suggesting interpretation of history indicates that there has been a great departure from the way of salvation as laid down by the Savior, a universal apostasy from the Church of Christ". ("The Articles of Faith," Deseret Book Company, Salt Lake City, Utah. P. 182.)
Bruce McConkie said . . .
"With the loss of the gospel, the nations of the earth went into a moral eclipse called the Dark Ages." ("Mormon Doctrine," Bookcraft, Salt Lake City, Utah, page. 44.)
Joseph Fielding Smith said . . .
"Again, following the death of his apostles, apostasy once more set in, and again the saving principles and ordinances of the gospel were changed to suit the conveniences and notions of the people. Doctrines were corrupted, authority lost, and a false order of religion took the place of the gospel of Jesus Christ, just as it had been the case in former dispensations, and the people were left in spiritual darkness." ("Doctrines of Salvation," page 266.)
The Book of Mormon says. . .
"And he said unto me: Behold there are save two churches only; the one is the church of the Lamb of God, and the other is the church of the devil; wherefore, whoso belongeth not to the church of the Lamb of God belongeth to that great church which is the mother of abominations; and she is the whore of all the earth" (1 Nephi 14:10).
"And when the day cometh that the wrath of God is poured out upon the mother of harlots, which is the great and abominable church of all the earth, whose foundation is the devil, then, at that day, the work of the Father shall commence. . ." (1 Nephi. 14:17).
The Doctrine and Covenants says . . .
"Verily, verily, I say unto you, darkness covereth the earth, and gross darkness the minds of the people, and all flesh has become corrupt before my face" (Doctrine and Covenants, 112:23).
Christians have to constantly hear how our faith is wrong, we are persecuted all over the world, made fun of constantly. But we endure this because our Lord told us they would hate us for His name’s sake. We listen to the arguments against Christianity everyday. No one is trying to persecute you sir, we are simply stating what we know to be true, and you have the option of hearing it and discerning for yourself if you believe it or not. We are trying to save you from God’s judgment, we can’t force you to believe, only state the truth in boldness and in love.
But be sure of this, we’ll all find out one day, I just pray that you accept the truth prior to that.
uhhhh, i think you did a great job of creating a straw-man there. somehow in the fire and brimstone you were toss my way, you seemed to forget that the whole crux of the problem here is that i believe i'm christian and you don't want to afford me that right. that was one hell of an imaginery bridge you built there though to take this issue to the other side. i also find it funny that by quoting all the leaders of my church that it would somehow confound me as if i would be shocked to discover that. i'm happy to report that i didn't need your light and knowledge, because i've already read and agree with all that they wrote.
and if you had read my earlier post, you would have noted that i already understood that mormons believe to be the only true church. does that offend your senses? because i'm quite positive that you feel the same about your faith.
the problem, as i already stated, is you guys are just nasty in your rhetoric and proudly exclusionary.
and why do you feel that you have to come rescue anthony from me? he's a big boy. he chose to make his comments and threaten hell upon mine and others' heads.
fact is, you are desperate not to have anything in common with mormons. your hate won't allow it and that's why you so quickly fly off the handle when a mormon dares to call himself christian. and worse, that disassociation you want with us even carries over into a mormon being a leader in your community. it's okay for you to want my support after you call me brainwashed, and me and everyone else should just not think that's not a little unfair? but hey, it's cool because your a "real" christian.
seriously, this whole mitt affair has really opened my eyes to the damage religion has effectuated on our political system. imagine, jefferson could never get elected today by your standards. ben franklin probably wouldn't be able to opine. do you have a problem with jehova witnesses? because that would weed out eisenhower. well, at least we have jimmy carter, and most importantly, that true christian, bill clinton and his "saved" wife hillary.
but you know what? i've wasted enough time here trying to reason with you. i'll tell you what though, seeing how i'm not encumbered with christianity and totally in to my evil cult, i'm allowed to not view people as sub-human so if you find yourself ever running for a political office and want to be heard on your policy stances, i'll be happy to judge you on that.
I did not call you brain washed just simply decieved. as to hating you I have no hate for Mormons I simply dont agree with the fact that they call themselfs Christians. You may use the same names for your god but you should be able to at least agree on the fact that your god (created being on planet Kolab) and your Jesus (son of the father brother of Lucifer) differ from my God (eternal being created Earth in 6 24 hour days) and my Jesus (part of the trinity, God in the flesh, savior to the world). I in no way believe that you are ignorant for believing in your faith I just don't agree with it and am entitled to state that as you are entitled to state your opinion. I also do not believe you are a tool of the anti-christ. As to your Jim Jones comment, everyone who claims that they are evangelical is not neccesarily a evangelical. as to who my pastor is both of those pastors are false profits (T.D. does not believe in the trinity and Joel doesnt preach the gospel.) as for L_S_F helping me you should not get mad that he is on my side so far 3 people have all posted against me whats wrong with one on my side?
thanks for your comments and keep em coming! more posts to come
Anthony
i've opined. no need for me to ever visit your blog again. all the best of luck in trying to convert others to a faith in something greater than themselves.
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